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Old Oct 02, 2007, 07:08 AM // 07:08   #41
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I'm sure there will be plenty of differences between GW2 and WoW, of which the best of course will be no timely fees. Also the looks will probably stay in the realistic style of GW1 rather than the (ugly imo) cartoony style of WOW.

About gameplay: Hard to say at this stage, but it promises to be a good mix of Guild Wars style with more traditional RPG style play. I surely believe that GW2 will fix many of the shortcomings of GW1, for example by introducing a more rewarding leveling system.
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Old Oct 02, 2007, 10:37 AM // 10:37   #42
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It's like WoW, but cheaper, has a lot less content, no good story/lore, won't last you longer than a month.

Ok. I take that back. It's SO NOT like WoW.
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Old Oct 02, 2007, 10:50 AM // 10:50   #43
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won't last you longer than a month.
How the hell can you say that it won't last longer than a month, when even a CASUAL player can rack up 5/6000 hours if they've been playing since the original release?
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Old Oct 02, 2007, 10:56 AM // 10:56   #44
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Because I don't count the mindless grindfest time you can waste for vanity items?
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Old Oct 02, 2007, 11:04 AM // 11:04   #45
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Because I don't count the mindless grindfest time you can waste for vanity items?
Ok, and again, how can you say it when those items are fairly recent additions?

your comment makes no sense, nor does it add anything constructive to this discussion due to its ill informed nature and lack of truthfullness

I've racked up over 6k hours since release, I have one set of 15k armour and most of my characters use end game (no grind to get) greens

My account is UAX, I have a moderately successful guild thats been active since prerelease, yet I feel like I've grinded in no way so far
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Old Oct 02, 2007, 11:25 AM // 11:25   #46
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I hope you said that in jest...
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Old Oct 02, 2007, 11:26 AM // 11:26   #47
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There's this thing called "illusion".

Vanity items have been with the game since released. They're called weapon & armor skins. Oh, grinding to get UAX is still that, GRIND. Hell, you don't even need UAX to play the game.

But I'll say no more. I don't like to have some BFB picking on me anyway.
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Old Oct 02, 2007, 11:30 AM // 11:30   #48
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There's this thing called "illusion".

Vanity items have been with the game since released. They're called weapon & armor skins. Oh, grinding to get UAX is still that, GRIND. Hell, you don't even need UAX to play the game.

But I'll say no more. I don't like to have some BFB picking on me anyway.
I never said I ground my UAX (actually i bought the PvP unlock packs, but fnuh)

and mind telling me what BFB means booka?
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Old Oct 02, 2007, 11:35 AM // 11:35   #49
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Ok, I just want to ask. How would anyone know what GW2 is going to be like? For those that said "oh it's gonna be like/unlike wow etc", is your name Hiro Nakamura?
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Old Oct 02, 2007, 11:36 AM // 11:36   #50
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I never said I ground my UAX (actually i bought the PvP unlock packs, but fnuh)

and mind telling me what BFB means booka?
Dunno but urban dictionary comes up with some interesting meanings...
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Old Oct 02, 2007, 11:37 AM // 11:37   #51
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Dunno but urban dictionary comes up with some interesting meanings...
I bet, but oh well, another troll gone from this thread due to constructive reasoning = all good
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Old Oct 02, 2007, 11:39 AM // 11:39   #52
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There's this thing called "illusion".

Vanity items have been with the game since released. They're called weapon & armor skins. Oh, grinding to get UAX is still that, GRIND. Hell, you don't even need UAX to play the game.

But I'll say no more. I don't like to have some BFB picking on me anyway.
Wait, are you saying WoW has less grind?
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Old Oct 02, 2007, 11:41 AM // 11:41   #53
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I cannot take full credit - Strain (and his speechwriters if any) did all the heavy lifting for me, all except whether they would continue to support GW 1 and release more games for it.

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He already said they would support GW1 as long as people kept playing it. He (or was it Gaile?) said that there would be no more chapters.
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Old Oct 02, 2007, 11:50 AM // 11:50   #54
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He already said they would support GW1 as long as people kept playing it. He (or was it Gaile?) said that there would be no more chapters.
Actually Jeff Strain said in an interview before GW:EN release (Gamespot interview if memory serves) that another GW1 expansion, "Isn't out of the question"

So another expansion is possible and I wouldn't be at all surprised if it happened about the same time that the GW2 betas started up end of next year as an appetiser
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Old Oct 02, 2007, 12:02 PM // 12:02   #55
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You can be sure that FB = Fan boi. And the first B has something to do with your eyes. (I wouldn't call people "Big Fat B*tch" out of no where, now would I?)

So you don't grind for your UAX. It doesn't mean that those who play the game for 6000+ hours haven't done it. Grind is still grind. The worse part is that grinding in GW is actually POINTLESS. That's why I said it won't last you longer than a month unless you grind for pointless stuff.

But as I said, feel free to go blind and defend your beloved game. I wish you the best in making this game any better doing just that.
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Old Oct 02, 2007, 12:05 PM // 12:05   #56
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You can be sure that FB = Fan boi. And the first B has something to do with your eyes. (I wouldn't call people "Big Fat B*tch" out of no where, now would I?)

So you don't grind for your UAX. It doesn't mean that those who play the game for 6000+ hours haven't done it. Grind is still grind. The worse part is that grinding in GW is actually POINTLESS. That's why I said it won't last you longer than a month unless you grind for pointless stuff.

But as I said, feel free to go blind and defend your beloved game. I wish you the best in making this game any better doing just that.
And again i say, how have i ground for anything? i have 1 title, over 6 characters and 6000 hours play

1 TITLE!!! and thats protector of Tyria

I use Green end game weapons

I use 1.5k armours on all but one of my characters

Again, i see no grind
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Old Oct 02, 2007, 12:11 PM // 12:11   #57
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Please tell us, then. What have you done during that 6000+ hours? Repeat the same old content over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over is a BIG POINTLESS GRINDFEST in my book. It may not be the case in your book though.

Well, anything that get you through I guess.
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Old Oct 02, 2007, 12:11 PM // 12:11   #58
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You can be sure that FB = Fan boi. And the first B has something to do with your eyes. (I wouldn't call people "Big Fat B*tch" out of no where, now would I?)

So you don't grind for your UAX. It doesn't mean that those who play the game for 6000+ hours haven't done it. Grind is still grind. The worse part is that grinding in GW is actually POINTLESS. That's why I said it won't last you longer than a month unless you grind for pointless stuff.

But as I said, feel free to go blind and defend your beloved game. I wish you the best in making this game any better doing just that.
I don't know how you can say unlocking skills is a grind.
Don't you realize how quickly people can rack up new skills in GW?
You are constantly being rewarded with new gameplay options every skill unlock. Skills can be unlocked as quickly as 1 every 15 minutes.
Everytime you get a new skill you get a slew of new build options.
The most engaging aspect of GW is unlocking skills and figuring out new builds and opening up the ever increasing ability to broaden your character's playstyle.

I'd only consider unlocking skills grind if one were unlocking skills when they never intended on using any of them.
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Old Oct 02, 2007, 12:23 PM // 12:23   #59
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But as I said, feel free to go blind and defend your beloved game. I wish you the best in making this game any better doing just that.
Which is obviously entirely different from what you're doing! There's NO WAY the high and mighty can be a hypocrite, can he? And even though you say you're going to leave, you just keep coming back to try to change every one's opinion to match yours on a GUILD WARS forum. Yeah. Good luck there, kid.
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Old Oct 02, 2007, 12:28 PM // 12:28   #60
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Did I try to change anyone opinion?

I remember stating my opinion. Then some BFBs tried to argue so I have to clarify WHY I said it as such.

Suddenly some of you feel like changing your opinion because of THAT? O well, how powerful am I?

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I don't know how you can say unlocking skills is a grind.
Don't you realize how quickly people can rack up new skills in GW?
You are constantly being rewarded with new gameplay options every skill unlock. Skills can be unlocked as quickly as 1 every 15 minutes.
Everytime you get a new skill you get a slew of new build options.
The most engaging aspect of GW is unlocking skills and figuring out new builds and opening up the ever increasing ability to broaden your character's playstyle.

I'd only consider unlocking skills grind if one were unlocking skills when they never intended on using any of them.
Please refer to the part that I said "You don't even need UAX to play the game", which basically means that I AGREE WITH YOU.

Read again, I said CLEARLY that UAX (which is what LS mentioned in his posts) is a grind, not just unlocking some skills to use (which is basically what I did). You know what UAX is, right?

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